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Friday, November 16, 2012

Sen. Patty Murray: "The Country Should Go Over The Fiscal Cliff"

Today in Washington. D.C. - Nov. 16, 2012
The Senate has adjourned for Thanksgiving recess and will return for legislative business on Monday, Nov. 26th, when it will complete work on S. 3525, a bill concerning hunting and sportsmen with up to two votes. The Senate is then expected to turn to the Defense authorization bill, S. 3254. Priot to adjourning, the Senate also conveyed to the House a message that the Senate passed H.R. 6570, and S. 1440.

The House met today and passed H.R. 6156 (365 - 43) — "To authorize the extension of nondiscriminatory treatment (normal trade relations treatment) to products of the Russian Federation and Moldova and to require reports on the compliance of the Russian Federation with its obligations as a member of the World Trade Organization, and for other purposes."

Rep. Tim Griffin (AR-02) favored the passage of the Russia and Moldova Jackson-Vanik Repeal Act (H.R. 6156). He said, "Last year alone, Arkansas sold more than $56 million worth of goods and services to Russia, and by opening up this market to even more Arkansas-made goods, we can strengthen our economy and create more jobs here at home. This bill would grant Russia and Moldova permanent normal trade relations in order for the United States to receive the open markets benefits resulting from Russia joining the World Trade Organization (WTO). The Jackson-Vanik amendment to the Trade Act of 1974 restricted trade with the U.S. in an effort to push the Soviet Union to allow the emigration of Soviet Jews and other victims of religious persecution. With the fall of the Soviet Union, this policy is no longer necessary, and its repeal will ensure that the United States remains internationally competitive now that Russia has joined the WTO."

The House also unanimously passed H. Res. 813 — "Expressing vigorous support and unwavering commitment to the welfare, security, and survival of the State of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state with secure borders, and recognizing and strongly supporting its right to act in self-defense to protect its citizens against acts of terrorism."

The House then adjourned for Thanksgiving recess until  2:00 PM on November 27, 2012.

Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA)
Yesterday, Tony Lee at Brietbart .com noted Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) announcement that if she wins the chairmanship of the Senate Budget Committee, Democrats may not pass a budget for the fourth year in a row.

Earlier this week, This same Senate Democrat, Patty Murray, again suggested that Democrats are so insistent on tax increases that they’d be willing to let the nation plunge over the fiscal cliff to get them.

CNN writes, “Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) says that if Republicans do not agree to let tax cuts expire for Americans making over $250,000 per year, the country should go over the fiscal cliff . . . .” Appearing on MSNBC that same day, Murray was asked, “You believe that’s a viable option, going over the cliff?” She responded, “Yes, if the Republicans continue to sit in their corner . . . .”

Slate reports, "Back in July she made some wise remarks at the Brookings Institution about the extent to which this will all get easier if we go over the fiscal cliff first:
I also think many Republicans are starting to realize something very important. On January 1st if we have not gotten a deal, Grover Norquist and his pledge are no longer relevant to this conversation. . . .  We will have a new fiscal and political reality.

If the Bush tax cuts expire, every proposal will be a tax cut proposal, and the pledge will no longer keep Republicans boxed in and unable to compromise. If middle class families start seeing some money coming out of their paychecks next year, are Republicans really going to stand up and fight for new tax cuts for the rich?  Are they going to continue opposing the Democrat’s middle class tax cut once the slate is wiped clean?
Of course, this isn’t the first time Murray, the 4th ranking Democrat in the Senate, has pushed this idea. Over the summer, it was “Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., who outlined the Democratic strategy … that her party would rather plunge off the fiscal cliff than extend tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans,” as National Journal described it. Appearing at the Brookings Institute, Murray said, “So if we can’t get a good deal… then I will absolutely continue this debate into 2013… our country is going to have to face the consequences…” The day after, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) was asked, “Do you agree with Senator Murray that if you do not get a balanced deal, you’ll fight this into 2013?” Reid replied, “…Patty Murray knows what she’s talking about.”

Rejecting this line of thinking, Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell previously responded, “Think about it: the amount of revenue for which they’re prepared to push us over the fiscal cliff wouldn’t fund the government for a week. So why in the world would we want to do it? What’s the point? To make people feel good about whacking somebody else? That’s not what we were sent here to do. That’s certainly not what the people of Kentucky sent me here to do. That’s not how you set economic policy — because it makes you feel good. You set economic policy because you think it will lead to investment here in America, create jobs, and give more people an opportunity to lift up themselves up, boosting middle-class incomes now and ensuring security for the future.”

Once again, we again note that elections have consequences!  Washington State sending Patty Murray to the U.S. Senate was one of them.  Murray is willing to send not only Washington State but also the rest of the United States over the "fiscal cliff" while she seeks the Chairmanship of the Senate Budget Committee and admits that this committee led by her may not pass a budget for the fourth year in a row. 

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Anonymous Louis McCarten said...

That appears to have been the standing opinion of the Democratic party for a long time. Columbia professors Cloward and Piven thought so too.

Anonymous Vote Ray A said...

I hope we go over the cliff and the people that voted for Obama will lose their jobs and homes

Anonymous Jim Forbes Pasco said...

For once I agree with Murray. Just let it happen to see what happens. My bet? VERY little!

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