URGENT ACTION - SB799 – Resurrected & Illegal Alien Education Bill Passed AR Senate Committee
Elliott's Bill SB799 (post secondary education for illegal aliens) was resurrected today (it had previously failed on Monday) and passed out of committee. Dr. G. David Gearhart, Chancellor of the University of Arkansas system, testified before the committee today in favor. He said, " Hispanics are hard-working people.” He goes on to say “Northwest Arkansas wouldn’t have been built without them”….referring to illegal aliens. Tell us, Dr. Gearhart: Who built and sustained this preeminent society? Was it the illegal aliens? Of course not. They couldn't do it in their own countries, and now they want (and expect) the full rights to our communities and state.
It will now go to the full Senate for a vote. Should this bill win the floor vote in the Senate it will immediately go to the House. The pro-illegal community will not take “no” for an answer. They will continue their efforts to beat you down until they can win. PLEASE DO NOT LET THEM WIN. SPEAK UP, SPEAK NOW. Please forward to your friends & family and call State Senator & State Representative immediately and insist they vote NO on this bill: AR House of Representatives 501-682-6211 AR Senate 501-682-2902
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Students under Elliott's Bill Would Have to Commit A Crime to Get a Job After They Graduate -- Stealing A Citizen's Identity Would Be the Most Likely Crime
At legislative hearings on HB1525, in 2005, a bill to give scholarships and in-state tuition by Joyce Elliott, several presidents of colleges spoke in favor of the bill. However when asked one by one by Senator Bisbee if they would hire these students when they graduated, these university presidents ALL admitted they would not. They knew they had to answer this way; otherwise they would be confessing they would be willing to be involved in criminal activity by hiring them.
Why Presidents Had to Say This: Pat Reilly, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency, reported May, 08. "At the workplace, either the employer is knowingly hiring illegal immigrants or the job applicants are using fraudulent documents to get work, both of which are crimes beyond immigration offenses, Reilly said." (Taken from article, "North Carolina Pushes Ban on Illegal Immigrant Students" May 21, 2008
Signing an affidavit of intention included in the bill is just a deceitful smoke screen. Children of illegal aliens become illegal themselves and subject to deportation at 18 1/2 (unless they were born on US soil). Therefore, college undocumented students are unlawfully present here and cannot lawfully operate and hold jobs, so it makes no sense to use taxpayers' money to subsidize their education or to tempt them to steal a citizen's identity in order to get a job. To become naturalized these students would have to go back to Mexico or other country and be put on a waiting list. If these students apply for citizenship before going back to Mexico or other country, legally they could and should be deported at that time. As Senator Bisbee said in 2005, if his children were in that situation, they would have more sense than to do that, and he felt sure these college-age illegal aliens would have more sense too. It would be easy for them to SAY they intend to legalize their immigration status, but they won't under the circumstances.
Here is the law: TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 14 > Sec. 1623.
Section 1623. Limitation on eligibility for preferential treatment of aliens not lawfully present on basis of residence for higher education benefits (a) In general, Notwithstanding any other provision of law, an alien who is not lawfully present in the United States shall not be eligible on the basis of residence within a State (or a political subdivision) for any postsecondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of the United States is eligible for such a benefit (in no less an amount, duration, and scope) without regard to whether the citizen or national is such a resident. (b) Effective date This section shall apply to benefits provided on or after July 1, 1998.
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Appeals Court Ruled in 08 that California Had to Reimburse ALL students who had paid out-of-state tuition while Illegals received in-state tuition. Quote from article below on California ruling (Emphasis added.) "The court also granted injunctive relief to nonresident American students, meaning that they must be permitted to pay in-state tuition. Students who have already paid out-of-state tuition rates must be reimbursed." (Ruling was unanimous)
Governor Beebe was also quoted in a newspaper article in January 25, 09 as saying, "We can't afford to give scholarships and in-state tuition to every child of every American citizen in the other 49 states. Since you can't do that, you can't do that with illegal aliens either. It's real simple.” Yet, Elliott still insists that it will cost taxpayers nothing. She has to know that the state funds higher education and that the taxpayers would foot the bill for the instate tuition for the illegal aliens. In 2001 the state funded 58% of higher education. Tuition only funded 35%. So taxpayers would be funding the illegal aliens' tuition. [Source]
Also, note the California's ruling on Illegal Aliens in a bill that is almost just like Elliott's. "California's In-State Tuition Policy for Illegal Aliens Is Unconstitutional, Rules State Appeals Court Precedent Setting Ruling May Be Used to Challenge Many State Benefits for Illegal Aliens, Says Immigration Reform Law Institute" WASHINGTON -- A three judge panel of the California Court of Appeals unanimously ruled . . .that a California law intended to permit illegal aliens to attend public colleges and universities at in-state tuition rates is unconstitutional because it conflicts withfederal law, and violates both the equal protection clause and privileges and immunity clause of the constitution. Ruling in the case of Martinez et al. v.Regents of the University of California, brought by the Immigration Reform LawInstitute (IRLI) on behalf of some 80,000 nonresident American students whowere denied in-state tuition benefits, the Appeals Court agreed that California policy violates expressed provisions of both the Immigration Actand the Welfare Reform Act of 1996. The 1996 Immigration Act states that "an alien who is not lawfully present inthe United States shall not be eligible on the basis of residence within a State...for any postsecondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of the United States is eligible for such a benefit..." In their ruling, the judges concluded that a California law that recognizes illegal aliens as residents for the purpose of attending public colleges and universities at taxpayer subsidized tuition rates, "does, and was intended to, benefit illegal aliens" - a benefit that the state fails to provide to U.S. citizens from other states. The court also granted injunctive relief to nonresident American students, meaning that they must be permitted to pay in-state tuition. Students who have already paid out-of-state tuition rates must be reimbursed. "
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It will now go to the full Senate for a vote. Should this bill win the floor vote in the Senate it will immediately go to the House. The pro-illegal community will not take “no” for an answer. They will continue their efforts to beat you down until they can win. PLEASE DO NOT LET THEM WIN. SPEAK UP, SPEAK NOW. Please forward to your friends & family and call State Senator & State Representative immediately and insist they vote NO on this bill: AR House of Representatives 501-682-6211 AR Senate 501-682-2902
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Students under Elliott's Bill Would Have to Commit A Crime to Get a Job After They Graduate -- Stealing A Citizen's Identity Would Be the Most Likely Crime
At legislative hearings on HB1525, in 2005, a bill to give scholarships and in-state tuition by Joyce Elliott, several presidents of colleges spoke in favor of the bill. However when asked one by one by Senator Bisbee if they would hire these students when they graduated, these university presidents ALL admitted they would not. They knew they had to answer this way; otherwise they would be confessing they would be willing to be involved in criminal activity by hiring them.
Why Presidents Had to Say This: Pat Reilly, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency, reported May, 08. "At the workplace, either the employer is knowingly hiring illegal immigrants or the job applicants are using fraudulent documents to get work, both of which are crimes beyond immigration offenses, Reilly said." (Taken from article, "North Carolina Pushes Ban on Illegal Immigrant Students" May 21, 2008
Signing an affidavit of intention included in the bill is just a deceitful smoke screen. Children of illegal aliens become illegal themselves and subject to deportation at 18 1/2 (unless they were born on US soil). Therefore, college undocumented students are unlawfully present here and cannot lawfully operate and hold jobs, so it makes no sense to use taxpayers' money to subsidize their education or to tempt them to steal a citizen's identity in order to get a job. To become naturalized these students would have to go back to Mexico or other country and be put on a waiting list. If these students apply for citizenship before going back to Mexico or other country, legally they could and should be deported at that time. As Senator Bisbee said in 2005, if his children were in that situation, they would have more sense than to do that, and he felt sure these college-age illegal aliens would have more sense too. It would be easy for them to SAY they intend to legalize their immigration status, but they won't under the circumstances.
Here is the law: TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 14 > Sec. 1623.
Section 1623. Limitation on eligibility for preferential treatment of aliens not lawfully present on basis of residence for higher education benefits (a) In general, Notwithstanding any other provision of law, an alien who is not lawfully present in the United States shall not be eligible on the basis of residence within a State (or a political subdivision) for any postsecondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of the United States is eligible for such a benefit (in no less an amount, duration, and scope) without regard to whether the citizen or national is such a resident. (b) Effective date This section shall apply to benefits provided on or after July 1, 1998.
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Appeals Court Ruled in 08 that California Had to Reimburse ALL students who had paid out-of-state tuition while Illegals received in-state tuition. Quote from article below on California ruling (Emphasis added.) "The court also granted injunctive relief to nonresident American students, meaning that they must be permitted to pay in-state tuition. Students who have already paid out-of-state tuition rates must be reimbursed." (Ruling was unanimous)
Governor Beebe was also quoted in a newspaper article in January 25, 09 as saying, "We can't afford to give scholarships and in-state tuition to every child of every American citizen in the other 49 states. Since you can't do that, you can't do that with illegal aliens either. It's real simple.” Yet, Elliott still insists that it will cost taxpayers nothing. She has to know that the state funds higher education and that the taxpayers would foot the bill for the instate tuition for the illegal aliens. In 2001 the state funded 58% of higher education. Tuition only funded 35%. So taxpayers would be funding the illegal aliens' tuition. [Source]
Also, note the California's ruling on Illegal Aliens in a bill that is almost just like Elliott's. "California's In-State Tuition Policy for Illegal Aliens Is Unconstitutional, Rules State Appeals Court Precedent Setting Ruling May Be Used to Challenge Many State Benefits for Illegal Aliens, Says Immigration Reform Law Institute" WASHINGTON -- A three judge panel of the California Court of Appeals unanimously ruled . . .that a California law intended to permit illegal aliens to attend public colleges and universities at in-state tuition rates is unconstitutional because it conflicts withfederal law, and violates both the equal protection clause and privileges and immunity clause of the constitution. Ruling in the case of Martinez et al. v.Regents of the University of California, brought by the Immigration Reform LawInstitute (IRLI) on behalf of some 80,000 nonresident American students whowere denied in-state tuition benefits, the Appeals Court agreed that California policy violates expressed provisions of both the Immigration Actand the Welfare Reform Act of 1996. The 1996 Immigration Act states that "an alien who is not lawfully present inthe United States shall not be eligible on the basis of residence within a State...for any postsecondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of the United States is eligible for such a benefit..." In their ruling, the judges concluded that a California law that recognizes illegal aliens as residents for the purpose of attending public colleges and universities at taxpayer subsidized tuition rates, "does, and was intended to, benefit illegal aliens" - a benefit that the state fails to provide to U.S. citizens from other states. The court also granted injunctive relief to nonresident American students, meaning that they must be permitted to pay in-state tuition. Students who have already paid out-of-state tuition rates must be reimbursed. "
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9 Comments:
Why would the state of Arkansas want to educate illegal aliens to prepare them for jobs it is illegal for them to have? I hope you will speak out against and vote no on Joyce Elliott's (D) bill SB 799. I also hope that voters will remember every state lawmaker who supported SB 799 in the next election cycle."
We need a full and fervent response on this request for Arkansas ASAP! If you do not reach members of the Arkansas Senate by phone, fill their voice mail and e-mail in boxes.
My note sent to Arkansas State Senators:
Dear Sir/Madam:
Please listen to reason and common sense and oppose this legislation—the “Forced Subsidization of Illegal Aliens Act”, thinly veiled as the “Access to Postsecondary Education Act.” Do you think the hard-working taxpayers of Arkansas are not paying attention? Do you think we have unlimited supplies of cash just sitting around waiting to give to you at any moment? How much more can you take from us? We are already a very heavily taxed state compared to many others, partly because we are forced—against our will—to pay for free K-12 education and free lunches for illegals, free health care, and food stamps. We have no problem with people wanting to come to our country to make a better life—if they wish to contribute, join the melting pot, and become Americans. But instead, we have people streaming across the border, waving foreign flags, bringing their gangs with them, refusing to speak our language, and helping themselves to our hard-earned money. I realize that is not the case for all of them—but too many of them. The key word here is “ILLEGAL” ones. Anyone who speaks up on principle is simply dismissed as racist, as if we have no legitimate concern at all! I happen to be married to an immigrant—a legal one—so I am not speaking as someone who has no tolerance. This bill would be totally unnecessary if these people would simply go through the process of legal immigration first. Do you honestly think that because of this bill, they will suddenly decide to legalize their status? Many of them would not be able to.
Do you not see that if you pass this bill, you are sending a message that ILLEGAL immigration is welcome in Arkansas? Do you not see that by passing this legislation, it would create more demand, which would increase the already high costs of education for ALL of us? Please do not listen to some university president, who merely wants more students, instead of the people who work hard, pay their taxes, and voted for you. Many of us are paying attention, but the people who are not will be outraged if they find out you voted for this, make no mistake. I will be doing everything in my power to spread the word to everyone I know.
Sincerely,
Christine Keller
Response from Sen. Sharon Trusty:
From: Trusty, Sharon [mailto:TrustyS@arkleg.state.ar.us]
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:35 PM
To: The Kellers
Subject: RE: SB799
I WILL VOTE NO
WHAT A NON-REPLY!From Larry Teague:
From: Teague, Larry [mailto:teaguel@arkleg.state.ar.us]
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:39 PM
To: The Kellers
Subject: RE: SB799
Thank you for contacting me. I will remember your thoughts as we discuss the legislation.
Larry R. Teague
Arkansas Senate District 20
TeagueL@arkleg.state.ar.us
Senate phone (501) 682-2902
Office phone (870) 845-5303
www.teaguesenate.blogspot.com
www.teaguesenate.com
Quoted From ALIPAC Froum:
Kim Hendren also replied to my email and said she will vote against In-State tuition for illegal aliens. Larry Teague said he would consider my comments when the Senate begins discussions on the issue. hmmmm....
Quoted From ALIPAC Froum:
Email by PatrioticMe to Arkansas Senators:
I am writing to express my grave concern as well as my opposition to SB799. Surely Arkansas will not allow the children of illegal aliens to attend Arkansas higher education facilities while denying the children of American citizens the same rights? I am stunned that Arkansas is even considering this bill! Not only are 80% of American citizens against illegal aliens even being in our nation but this would also be against Federal Law. Why would Arkansas want to provide, at American taxpayer expense, a higher education for people for whom it is illegal to work in our nation? Are you prepared to reward illegal aliens and their children because the parents got away with breaking the laws long enough for their children to be educated at the expense of our own, all on the tax dollars of honest, hard-working, law abiding American citizens? We Americans have footed the bill for these people and their children much too long already, Senator.
Here is what the law says:
"Immigration nationality Act of 1996" section 8 USC 1623 and it reads “…an alien who is not lawfully present in the United States shall not be eligible on the basis of residence within a State for any postsecondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of the United States is eligible for such a benefit…”
I and others know several out of state American citizens who now pay out of state tuition; these are children whose American parents are struggling to pay for their education while their tax dollars support illegal aliens and their offspring. We will be informing these students to spread the word through out the colleges of their rights to the same advantage of in-state tuition provided to the illegal aliens, if this bill passes.
I don’t think most politicians understand how angry American citizens are about this entire mess, and I’m not just referring to this particular bill. This is really a slap in the face of every law abiding American. What American criminal’s children get rewarded because their parents decided to break the law and then got away with it long enough? We are tired of supporting illegal aliens and their children.
Please vote no on this un-American, unpatriotic bill!
Respectfully,
Quoted From ALIPAC Froum:
Okay, here is a list of a few we need to really focus on. More could follow:
Fence-sitters:
Randy Laverty(D) District 2(no email or # listed)
leave message at switchboard: 501-682-2902
Jim Luker(D) District 17
luker@arkleg.state.ar.us
870-238-8588
Possibly leaning toward voting against bill:
Jerry Taylor(D) District 23
taylorj@arkleg.state.ar.us
870-879-3233
Larry Teague(D) District 20
teaguel@arkleg.state.ar.us
870-845-5303
The following are hardcore supporters of the legislation(all Dems):
Jimmy Jeffress
Gene Jeffress
Steve Bryles
Jack Crumbly
Joyce Elliot
Bob Johnson
Henry Wilkins
Sue Madison
and probably Mary Anne Salmon
I understand that things are looking pretty good right now for our side, but this could certainly change so it is critical to contact and hammer the fence-sitters we are aware of. We need to hit these four HARD for their support. According to one of the Republican legislators, the bill will likely go to the Senate on Monday, 3/30.
Note From ALIPAC: Some of the Senators are encouraging us not to label what happened in the Higher Education Committee as underhanded or below the belt as the maneuver was within the rules of the committee.
I have responded with this:
Senator ________,
I certainly understand your point. But in our book, anytime elected officials in America vote against 80% of the public to reward illegal aliens at the expense of innocent American students and taxpayers, we consider that underhanded and below the belt.
Procedurally, every Arkansas citizens deserves to know how each member of the committee voted on this highly unpopular and outrageous bill.
William Gheen
www.alipac.us
Quoted From ALIPAC Froum:
Dear Senator______
Please be advised if you pass SB799 it is against the "Immigration nationality Act of 1996" section 8 USC 1623 and it reads “…an alien who is not lawfully present in the United States shall not be eligible on the basis of residence within a State for any postsecondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of the United States is eligible for such a benefit…”
I and others know several out of state American citizens who now pay out of state tuition, these are children who's parents are struggling to pay for their education, but we will be informing these students to spread the word through out the colleges of their rights to the same advantage of in-state tuition provided to the illegal aliens, if this bill passes.
Have a nice day.
Respectfully
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