Idaho Joins Growing Movement Allowing Concealed Carry On College Campuses
Bill Smith, ARRA Editor Note: The following report is shared in its entirety so as to not slant any aspect to the editor's bias. As to the final line of the article,"Now that Idaho State student Derek Sommer has that ability (to carry a weapon), he said he wonders if he could use his weapon should someone attack him. 'In my dream world, we could help these individuals before anything like this ever happens,' Sommer said. 'Would I ever want to draw a gun on somebody? I would hate that. I don't know if I could live with myself if I ended up taking somebody's life, especially if it was somebody troubled.'" Considering the consequences evidences mature rightfully thinking before carrying a weapon. It has been rightfully considered millions of people who lawfully possess and take up arms to protect themselves, their families, their property and others. Living has responsibilities and consequences. Regarding Sommer's reflections, living with yourself is far better than being dead and leaving your child fatherless and your spouse to raise your child alone. Also, knowing you may have stopped the death of others far out weighs knowing you failed to stop the deaths of others. Being responsibility is not emotion free. Just ask any living military veteran, policeman, security guard, or citizen who acted responsibly when placed in harms way by actions and situations not of their own making. And, don't forget to ask the parent's of 392 murdered students mentioned in this report. Don't forget the multitude of others murdered or those who have had their homes, cars, stores and other properties robbed or those physically assaulted. For the living, consider their emotional and physical devastation because they, or even others around them, possessed no means to stop the perpetrators/predators.
By Wade Millward and Carmen Forman / News21: Pocatello, Idaho — Derek Sommer carries a concealed handgun almost everywhere he goes these days, including onto the campus of Idaho State University — an illegal act until recently.
Under an Idaho law that took effect July 1, nearly 3,000 residents with enhanced concealed carry permits can bring their guns on college campuses. Sommer no longer leaves his gun at home or in his car's locked glove compartment.
Idaho became the seventh state to allow "campus carry" in a movement gaining traction across the country, despite the often strenuous opposition of other students, faculty and campus administrators. Oregon, Utah, Colorado, Kansas, Mississippi and Wisconsin also have laws on the books that allow students to conceal weapons on campus.
For Sommer, 23, a computerized machining student who founded Idaho State's SCC chapter, carrying his handgun means protection for himself, his wife McKinley, and their 7-month-old daughter, Andi. "It makes me angry; it really does," he said. "I don't like the fact that there are places where it's considered OK to tell somebody, 'You don't have the right to protect yourself.'"
Opposition
Opponents of campus carry laws have seen mixed success of late.
Arkansans Against Guns on Campus got state lawmakers to exclude students from a law letting faculty and staff bring concealed guns on campus if their college grants permission.
Attempts to start a Colorado referendum to end campus carry there ended in failure.
Groups like SCC, meanwhile, have active chapters in at least 30 states, mobilizing as many as 30,000 students and faculty to support laws and court cases favorable to the cause, said group spokesman Kurt Mueller.
The group occasionally makes local headlines when members gather to wear empty holsters to promote campus carry — from Washington state to Michigan to Florida. It operates with little funding, relying instead on volunteers and social media for recruitment and chapter operations, Mueller said.
"We don't have professional lobbyists," he said. "We don't pay anybody to lobby. People do it for free because it's what they believe in."
Victory in the West, Battles in the South
A News21 analysis of on-campus shootings found 87 of them, or 60 percent, have happened in the past decade. Campus carry supporters nationwide said in interviews that the increase in shootings partly influenced their desire to bring concealed guns on campus.
SCC formed after the 2007 Virginia Tech shooting, the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history. Mueller argues an armed student could have stopped the shooter without waiting for police to arrive.
"The confrontation would have ended a lot sooner," he said. "Lives would have been saved."
Campus carry supporters point to the legal doctrine of preemption, which says only the state legislature can regulate guns in the state. No other government in the state, such as cities and counties, can make gun rules. Many states exempt K-12 schools and some public buildings from concealed carry of guns.
The first state to finalize campus carry was Utah in 2006. University of Utah continued banning guns on campus despite the state's 2004 preemption law. Two years after the law passed, a lawsuit against then-state Attorney General Mark L. Shurtleff led to colleges allowing concealed guns.
A 2011 lawsuit by a division of the Oregon Firearms Federation led to a state court striking the Oregon state education board's ban against guns on campuses.
The victories are not complete. As in other campus carry states, Oregon universities insist they can limit guns in buildings, and the Oregon state board bans guns in event centers, classrooms and dorms.
In Utah, students may ask not to live with gun owners in dorms, and universities can ban guns from certain meeting rooms.
Kansas' 2013 campus carry law included an optional four-year delay before licensees could bring concealed guns on campus. Arkansas' law allowing only faculty and staff to carry requires colleges annually renew any on-campus bans.
The laws on campus carry in other states vary, from letting students store guns in their cars to leaving policy decisions to the schools.
Colorado courts sided with SCC in 2010 and 2012, ruling the state's public universities and colleges must allow concealed weapons permit holders to bring guns on campus. The courts said college gun bans violated a 2003 state law giving the legislature sole gun regulation control.
Colorado colleges still regulate guns in dorms, dining halls and event centers. University of Colorado, Boulder, designated dorm space for gun owners, but no students have requested it, said campus spokesman Bronson Hilliard. In Colorado, concealed carry licensees must be at least 21.
Battleground in Texas
SCC's focus next year is Texas, Mueller said.
As of September, students could store guns in cars on campus in Texas. The group plans to have members write and call state lawmakers to demand more places on campus that allow concealed guns.
The law shouldn't block licensed gun owners — including students — from carrying on campuses, Mueller said. In some places, crossing the street could mean a law-abiding gun owner is now on campus and breaking the law.
"If you're responsible off campus, you're going to be responsible on campus," Mueller said. "Likewise, bad people don't change. They're bad off campus, and they're bad on campus."
"We're not interested in every college student carrying," he said. "There might be a lot of people who might never want to use or bring their firearms. If that's the case, that's cool. We don't think anyone should have to exercise rights they don't want to. But on the other hand, we don't think they get a veto over the rights of others."
Risks
Crime research consultant Tom Gabor said he believes letting students possess guns in more places goes against dozens of public health and criminal justice studies.
People in the 18- to 24-year-old age range are more impulsive and at greater risk for suicide, said Gabor, who taught criminology at the University of Ottawa for 30 years and studied firearms for 20 years.
Gabor cites statistics from a 1986 New England Journal of Medicine article — an article contested by gun rights groups — that said for every one time someone shoots and kills another in a home in self-defense, about 43 other home gun deaths result from suicide, murder or accident.
"People will thwart an attacker, but I imagine many more reports of death and disabling injuries," he said. He sees campus carry as a gun industry move to gain customers.
"It's very mercenary, in my view, to profit at any cost and put young people at risk in school," Gabor said. "More people carrying, bringing guns on college campuses, in public venues, grocery stores, makes people feel more afraid than providing them security."
Disputes in Florida, Ohio and Georgia
Marion P. Hammer calls opposition to campus carry "nothing more than an attempt to make gun-free zones, where murderers come on campus and kill kids."
Hammer, a former NRA president and the organization's longtime lobbyist in Florida, said that NRA will use the state's preemption law to push state legislators to authorize concealed carry on campuses.
"Students can't (carry) right now, but we're going to fix that," said Hammer, one of 76 NRA board members.
On July 30, the Florida Carry lobby lost its suit against the University of Florida over the university's guns-in-cars policy and whether colleges must let guns in campus-owned housing statewide. The lobby will appeal, according to its website.
Florida Carry, which is unrelated to SCC, has a reputation for using the preemption law to successfully sue cities, counties and colleges over their gun bans. Last year, the lobby successfully sued the University of North Florida to get guns allowed in cars on college grounds.
The NRA led the campus carry effort in Idaho, where the NRA state lobbyist was a regular at bill hearings. Though the NRA has been a major player in Idaho and Florida, it usually takes a supporting role on campus carry, NRA board member and former lobbyist Todd Rathner said.
"The NRA is a huge organization, and second to none in protecting gun rights. It gets spread thin," Rathner said. "There's a need for these (single-issue) groups. They help maintain focus."
The NRA's press office declined to comment for this story.
SCC and a grassroots group called Ohioans for Concealed Carry cited Ohio's pre-emption law in a July lawsuit against Ohio State University that seeks to allow campus carry there. The trial is expected to start next year.
SCC has also threatened to sue Georgia after a letter from the state attorney general's office declared campus carry still illegal, SCC Southeast Director Robert Eagar said.
The groups say campus carry is allowed by Georgia's Safe Carry Protection Act, which critics have called "guns everywhere." The law, which took effect July 1, allows permit holders to bring concealed guns into K-12 schools, bars, churches and more.
Colleges fight back
For Hernandez, the Boise State student, campus is no place for guns.
Boise State student body President Bryan Vlok helped organize the student protest against concealed carry on Idaho campuses. Vlok believes the requirements to get the enhanced concealed carry permit in Idaho are not enough to make someone responsible or accurate. The license requires applicants take an eight-hour class on gun use and fire 98 rounds in front of an instructor. (Carmen Forman/News21.)
"School should be a place where you learn, where you make something better with your life," said the 24-year-old Hernandez, who wants to teach civics when he graduates in two years. "It shouldn't be a place where you deal with the stress of a gun in the classroom."
He is a member of the student government who joined other Idaho students to protest the campus carry law.
The students and other Idaho activists received guidance from Andy Pelosi, who challenges campus carry on a national level.
Pelosi, who is not related to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, started the anti-campus carry group GunFreeKids.org in 2008.
A series of campus carry bills following Virginia Tech and the 2008 Northern Illinois University shootings — in which 27-year-old former student Stephen Kazmierczak killed five people and wounded 18 — caused Pelosi to focus on higher education.
His group focused on Idaho and Georgia this past legislative year, he said. Next year, he expects to help coordinate resistance to campus carry in Texas.
Colleges that side with Pelosi fear on-campus gun theft, threats with guns and accidental shootings, he said.
"We really believe that college campuses are safe environments, certainly safer than places off campus," he said. "The educational environment is very different than people's homes, and that's not a place that guns should be carried."
But supporters of campus carry say the Idaho opposition is a vocal minority led by Boise State administrators. Idaho state Rep. Judy Boyle, a Republican and one of the law's sponsors, hopes to amend it to stop the university from exempting the student union building.
"We're talking about a Second Amendment right, a right to protect your life or the life of someone else," Boyle said. "That's why we felt it was important to give someone that ability."
Now that Idaho State student Derek Sommer has that ability, he said he wonders if he could use his weapon should someone attack him.
"In my dream world, we could help these individuals before anything like this ever happens," Sommer said. "Would I ever want to draw a gun on somebody? I would hate that. I don't know if I could live with myself if I ended up taking somebody's life, especially if it was somebody troubled."
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This report is part of the project titled "Gun Wars: The Struggle Over Rights and Regulation in America," produced by the Carnegie-Knight News21 initiative, a national investigative reporting project involving top college journalism students across the country and headquartered at the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication at Arizona State University.
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By Wade Millward and Carmen Forman / News21: Pocatello, Idaho — Derek Sommer carries a concealed handgun almost everywhere he goes these days, including onto the campus of Idaho State University — an illegal act until recently.Under an Idaho law that took effect July 1, nearly 3,000 residents with enhanced concealed carry permits can bring their guns on college campuses. Sommer no longer leaves his gun at home or in his car's locked glove compartment.
Idaho became the seventh state to allow "campus carry" in a movement gaining traction across the country, despite the often strenuous opposition of other students, faculty and campus administrators. Oregon, Utah, Colorado, Kansas, Mississippi and Wisconsin also have laws on the books that allow students to conceal weapons on campus.
For Sommer, 23, a computerized machining student who founded Idaho State's SCC chapter, carrying his handgun means protection for himself, his wife McKinley, and their 7-month-old daughter, Andi. "It makes me angry; it really does," he said. "I don't like the fact that there are places where it's considered OK to tell somebody, 'You don't have the right to protect yourself.'"
Opposition
Opponents of campus carry laws have seen mixed success of late.
Arkansans Against Guns on Campus got state lawmakers to exclude students from a law letting faculty and staff bring concealed guns on campus if their college grants permission.
Attempts to start a Colorado referendum to end campus carry there ended in failure.
Groups like SCC, meanwhile, have active chapters in at least 30 states, mobilizing as many as 30,000 students and faculty to support laws and court cases favorable to the cause, said group spokesman Kurt Mueller.
The group occasionally makes local headlines when members gather to wear empty holsters to promote campus carry — from Washington state to Michigan to Florida. It operates with little funding, relying instead on volunteers and social media for recruitment and chapter operations, Mueller said.
"We don't have professional lobbyists," he said. "We don't pay anybody to lobby. People do it for free because it's what they believe in."
Victory in the West, Battles in the South
A News21 analysis of on-campus shootings found 87 of them, or 60 percent, have happened in the past decade. Campus carry supporters nationwide said in interviews that the increase in shootings partly influenced their desire to bring concealed guns on campus.
SCC formed after the 2007 Virginia Tech shooting, the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history. Mueller argues an armed student could have stopped the shooter without waiting for police to arrive.
"The confrontation would have ended a lot sooner," he said. "Lives would have been saved."
Campus carry supporters point to the legal doctrine of preemption, which says only the state legislature can regulate guns in the state. No other government in the state, such as cities and counties, can make gun rules. Many states exempt K-12 schools and some public buildings from concealed carry of guns.
The first state to finalize campus carry was Utah in 2006. University of Utah continued banning guns on campus despite the state's 2004 preemption law. Two years after the law passed, a lawsuit against then-state Attorney General Mark L. Shurtleff led to colleges allowing concealed guns.
A 2011 lawsuit by a division of the Oregon Firearms Federation led to a state court striking the Oregon state education board's ban against guns on campuses.
The victories are not complete. As in other campus carry states, Oregon universities insist they can limit guns in buildings, and the Oregon state board bans guns in event centers, classrooms and dorms.
In Utah, students may ask not to live with gun owners in dorms, and universities can ban guns from certain meeting rooms.
Kansas' 2013 campus carry law included an optional four-year delay before licensees could bring concealed guns on campus. Arkansas' law allowing only faculty and staff to carry requires colleges annually renew any on-campus bans.
The laws on campus carry in other states vary, from letting students store guns in their cars to leaving policy decisions to the schools.
Colorado courts sided with SCC in 2010 and 2012, ruling the state's public universities and colleges must allow concealed weapons permit holders to bring guns on campus. The courts said college gun bans violated a 2003 state law giving the legislature sole gun regulation control.
Colorado colleges still regulate guns in dorms, dining halls and event centers. University of Colorado, Boulder, designated dorm space for gun owners, but no students have requested it, said campus spokesman Bronson Hilliard. In Colorado, concealed carry licensees must be at least 21.
Battleground in Texas
SCC's focus next year is Texas, Mueller said.
As of September, students could store guns in cars on campus in Texas. The group plans to have members write and call state lawmakers to demand more places on campus that allow concealed guns.
The law shouldn't block licensed gun owners — including students — from carrying on campuses, Mueller said. In some places, crossing the street could mean a law-abiding gun owner is now on campus and breaking the law.
"If you're responsible off campus, you're going to be responsible on campus," Mueller said. "Likewise, bad people don't change. They're bad off campus, and they're bad on campus."
"We're not interested in every college student carrying," he said. "There might be a lot of people who might never want to use or bring their firearms. If that's the case, that's cool. We don't think anyone should have to exercise rights they don't want to. But on the other hand, we don't think they get a veto over the rights of others."
Risks
Crime research consultant Tom Gabor said he believes letting students possess guns in more places goes against dozens of public health and criminal justice studies.
People in the 18- to 24-year-old age range are more impulsive and at greater risk for suicide, said Gabor, who taught criminology at the University of Ottawa for 30 years and studied firearms for 20 years.
Gabor cites statistics from a 1986 New England Journal of Medicine article — an article contested by gun rights groups — that said for every one time someone shoots and kills another in a home in self-defense, about 43 other home gun deaths result from suicide, murder or accident.
"People will thwart an attacker, but I imagine many more reports of death and disabling injuries," he said. He sees campus carry as a gun industry move to gain customers.
"It's very mercenary, in my view, to profit at any cost and put young people at risk in school," Gabor said. "More people carrying, bringing guns on college campuses, in public venues, grocery stores, makes people feel more afraid than providing them security."
Disputes in Florida, Ohio and Georgia
Marion P. Hammer calls opposition to campus carry "nothing more than an attempt to make gun-free zones, where murderers come on campus and kill kids."
Hammer, a former NRA president and the organization's longtime lobbyist in Florida, said that NRA will use the state's preemption law to push state legislators to authorize concealed carry on campuses.
"Students can't (carry) right now, but we're going to fix that," said Hammer, one of 76 NRA board members.
On July 30, the Florida Carry lobby lost its suit against the University of Florida over the university's guns-in-cars policy and whether colleges must let guns in campus-owned housing statewide. The lobby will appeal, according to its website.
Florida Carry, which is unrelated to SCC, has a reputation for using the preemption law to successfully sue cities, counties and colleges over their gun bans. Last year, the lobby successfully sued the University of North Florida to get guns allowed in cars on college grounds.
The NRA led the campus carry effort in Idaho, where the NRA state lobbyist was a regular at bill hearings. Though the NRA has been a major player in Idaho and Florida, it usually takes a supporting role on campus carry, NRA board member and former lobbyist Todd Rathner said.
"The NRA is a huge organization, and second to none in protecting gun rights. It gets spread thin," Rathner said. "There's a need for these (single-issue) groups. They help maintain focus."
The NRA's press office declined to comment for this story.
SCC and a grassroots group called Ohioans for Concealed Carry cited Ohio's pre-emption law in a July lawsuit against Ohio State University that seeks to allow campus carry there. The trial is expected to start next year.
SCC has also threatened to sue Georgia after a letter from the state attorney general's office declared campus carry still illegal, SCC Southeast Director Robert Eagar said.
The groups say campus carry is allowed by Georgia's Safe Carry Protection Act, which critics have called "guns everywhere." The law, which took effect July 1, allows permit holders to bring concealed guns into K-12 schools, bars, churches and more.
Colleges fight back
For Hernandez, the Boise State student, campus is no place for guns.
Boise State student body President Bryan Vlok helped organize the student protest against concealed carry on Idaho campuses. Vlok believes the requirements to get the enhanced concealed carry permit in Idaho are not enough to make someone responsible or accurate. The license requires applicants take an eight-hour class on gun use and fire 98 rounds in front of an instructor. (Carmen Forman/News21.)
"School should be a place where you learn, where you make something better with your life," said the 24-year-old Hernandez, who wants to teach civics when he graduates in two years. "It shouldn't be a place where you deal with the stress of a gun in the classroom."
He is a member of the student government who joined other Idaho students to protest the campus carry law.
The students and other Idaho activists received guidance from Andy Pelosi, who challenges campus carry on a national level.
Pelosi, who is not related to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, started the anti-campus carry group GunFreeKids.org in 2008.
A series of campus carry bills following Virginia Tech and the 2008 Northern Illinois University shootings — in which 27-year-old former student Stephen Kazmierczak killed five people and wounded 18 — caused Pelosi to focus on higher education.
His group focused on Idaho and Georgia this past legislative year, he said. Next year, he expects to help coordinate resistance to campus carry in Texas.
Colleges that side with Pelosi fear on-campus gun theft, threats with guns and accidental shootings, he said.
"We really believe that college campuses are safe environments, certainly safer than places off campus," he said. "The educational environment is very different than people's homes, and that's not a place that guns should be carried."
But supporters of campus carry say the Idaho opposition is a vocal minority led by Boise State administrators. Idaho state Rep. Judy Boyle, a Republican and one of the law's sponsors, hopes to amend it to stop the university from exempting the student union building.
"We're talking about a Second Amendment right, a right to protect your life or the life of someone else," Boyle said. "That's why we felt it was important to give someone that ability."
Now that Idaho State student Derek Sommer has that ability, he said he wonders if he could use his weapon should someone attack him.
"In my dream world, we could help these individuals before anything like this ever happens," Sommer said. "Would I ever want to draw a gun on somebody? I would hate that. I don't know if I could live with myself if I ended up taking somebody's life, especially if it was somebody troubled."
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This report is part of the project titled "Gun Wars: The Struggle Over Rights and Regulation in America," produced by the Carnegie-Knight News21 initiative, a national investigative reporting project involving top college journalism students across the country and headquartered at the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication at Arizona State University.
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The way it should be ,,, especially with the number of muggings, and rapes on campuses.
There should be no conditions on carrying a firearm!!!
We really need this here!
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